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Tracy Sanders's avatar

Vermont and New Jersey are currently trying to steal land from small farmers as well. I bet this is more about land theft than anything else. The more regulations there are, the more burden there is for the small operator to stay in conformity with those, and thus the trap is set. You see the same problem in organic. Organic Eye has recently covered this. Large ag has no problem with all the extra regs because they just hire a full-time person to deal with it.

I think in this case we have to assume that there are nefarious intentions. American Stewards of Liberty has also been covering all the land theft.

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OregonB's avatar

If the concern - as one proponent interviewed said it was - is losing farmland to production, the state might want to examine their embrace and encouragement of wind and solar projects. Take Gilliam, County for example. There's a lot of wheat grown here, and for the last two decades we have watched wind farms built on wheat land, especially in North county. A wheat farm loses about 5% of its' acreage to pads and roads. It may not seem like much, but when you add up the acreage lost just here, it is in the thousands. When the solar farms come (and they are coming), that is a 100% complete loss of land.

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Timmy Taes's avatar

Wind and solar farms are inefficient and don't last long. You can't recycle them. They are a lousy use of farmland.

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OregonB's avatar

Yep. They need a govt subsidy (taxpayers) of around 40-50% over and above what conventional power would cost to get built. That would = $500 billion if we spent $1trillion on green energy. For power that is not always available (wind, sun). I don't blame the locals for signing the deals, the money is hard to turn down. But I'm looking out our backyard at what used to be nice views of Mt Hood & Adams...pretty ugly now what with all towers. This area is tur ing into a giant industrial park.

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Timmy Taes's avatar

My friend in Dumfriesshire, Scotland, has wind farms in his area. He hates the damn things. They are noisy, kill birds, and his power bill is twice as high as it was in the past. Scotland blew up its last coal-fired power plant last year.

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OregonB's avatar

All true. You can hear them from miles away when the wind is right (wrong). And if I killed raptors at the rate they do, I'd be in prison.

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Timmy Taes's avatar

Zoning laws are Unconstitutional. They are another attack on private property. Oregon also just passed a law against camping on public land, and only allows a week a year of camping on private land. This includes people's driveways and backyards.

It's an attack on the nomads living in vans and RVs. The state wants those property taxes.

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Vivian Kanchian's avatar

I thought this didn't go through (per AJ Richards on IG), but could come back later so it's important to keep watch?

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